Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour Audiobook

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  erouting
  June 2nd, 2023
  

  Ah yes, I am one of the recipients of the great benefits of stress and anxiety. As are the millions who die young every year as a result of high blood pressure, suicide, substance abuse and other related conditions. Was stress useful when I was 20? Sure. Did my body quit on me in my mid-30s because of it? Also sure. Its a bit like arguing that cocaine can help you push past your limits. It absolutely can. Until it suddenly creates new limits you can’t push past ever again.

  Dale Carnegie wrote two books. The other one is called How to Stop Worrying And Start Living. 20 odd years of therapy didn’t help me with stress but that book did. It’s on here so perhaps, rather than telling women you care about that they ought to embrace something proven to be harmful to their long term health, read it yourself and then send them a copy. Couple chapters are dated and wrong but most of it is extremely helpful and the advice is so varied it’d be hard for anyone not to find at least a few useful ideas in it.

  I hope the women you care about have a better outcome than I did, or than my cousin did who thought this way about stress until she died of alcohol abuse (her coping mechanism) five years ago.

  https://audioselfhelp.com/ab/how-to-stop-worrying-and-start-living-dale-carnegie/

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour
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  koloko
  June 3rd, 2023
  

  Ah yes, it’s a good thing there are white men here to tell us about how other white men have already solved every single problem there is known to humanity and if you just do what the white man says, you’ll be just be fine too….

  Feeling bad? Just don’t think about it and it’ll all work itself out! Why? Because Dale Carnegie!! Wow, great advice!

  White men: god’s gift to the rest of us!

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour
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  erouting
  June 3rd, 2023
  

  Yeah, I often picked fights with people on the internet before reading that book too. Fortunately now I do better. In part because of a story a woman in rural Mississippi told almost a century ago about how she kept from giving into despair. It’s in the book, but I doubt that matters to you because a white man’s name is on the cover.

  Fortunately the information in that book is universal, meaning you can find it other places too. If you need to go on a spiritual quest to Africa and hear it from a wise woman in a remote village, you can. If you need to get high in a cabin overlooking the Amazon to accept it, it’s there too. The advice is the same, only the delivery differs. Not sure if you can find it in China anymore following Mao’s nonsense but they used to have it too. Pick your poison but do be aware that stress kills and it doesn’t care if you’re black or white or what your gender is or which god (if any) you follow.

  Or you can continue to be angry if you like. I did for decades. Not very productive in my opinion but I wouldn’t have listened to anyone when I was in that state either so I can’t very well fault you for making my mistakes.

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour
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  caesar963
  June 3rd, 2023
  

  erouting’s white?! I had no idea! All this while, he’s been posting under false pretences - commenting while white!
  It’s like whenever I hear Beethoven or Bach, I have to run at whatever device is playing their evil white sounds & smash my head against it until they stop. I just know I can’t be alone in this?
  All those dead white people oughta be killed! With extreme prejudice!

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour
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  erouting
  June 3rd, 2023
  

  My crime is even further compounded caesar, didn’t a bunch of neo-nazi types “accuse” you of being a black homosexual Cambodian living in Ireland or something of the sort one of these last holocaust denial debates?

  Apart from being amazing since that’d mean you probably speak three languages and got an education in a language other than your own, I believe it also means you get extra internet victim points, thus further compounding the crime of my vile deception.

  Actually, I wonder if they’re still around, I’m curious which minority group and sexual orientation I have that I’m presently unaware of. I’ll bait them next time I feel up to it and try to find out. Kind of hope I’m a Filipino transsexual since they seem pretty fun. But with my luck I’m probably an old Chinese man named 屁 who collects sewer grease and resells it to infant formula factories.

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour
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  caesar963
  June 3rd, 2023
  

  That’s not the half of it: while I was indeed a black homosexual African Cambodian living in Ireland (my sexxy same-sex exploits were described in suspiciously painstaking detail), I’m also Jewish; I have HIV/AIDs (a condition which I’m making the “potato people” pay well for, mind you); I’m both an Islamophobe & love Muslims (especially Islamic terrorists) - that was probably the same accuser, on the same day; I’m a Jew-lover; a socialist fascist & a heartless capitalist; a Zionist Northern Irish British Protestant (that one was y’day, incidentally); an American libertarian; an English person, of some intolerable description (that one was by far the most gratuitously offensive); a Marxist Nazi; a Scot (fair enough, that one); I voted for Frump; I’m a British imperialist; I want white people to be eliminated & replaced with gay people, for some reason; I want everyone to be injected with I don’t even know what, etc. etc.

  There’s plenty more. I’m not even joking. It’s difficult to keep all these things in your head simultaneously & at the same time. You tend to be whatever the Straw Man needs you to be, at any particular moment.
  What was it your great poet said, “Do I contradict myself? Very well then, I contradict myself,” and “I am large, I contain multitudes.”
  I don’t care what “colour” you happen to be, erouting, from my vantage you seem to radiate sincerity, love & concern. More of that in the world, less of the other hateful stuff, I reckon.

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour
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  alixx11
  June 3rd, 2023
  

  Girls confronting stress & anxiety? I have some simple work-arounds for parents :

  1. Vastly limit their social-media use.
  2. Teach them the difference between their sexual value (fleeting, like bread’s expiration date) and their personal value (character, must be built through effort)

  End.

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour
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  erouting
  June 4th, 2023
  

  @ceasar963

  Thank you, that means a lot.

  For what it’s worth your continual efforts in arguing with unfortunate people got me to re-read the new testament. Mostly to try to understand how you’re doing that without abrading away at your own psyche in the process, but also because you’re the first actual Christian I’ve knowingly seen in decades who acts like one. I’m sure you know what the right in my country is doing in the name of God. It tends to leave a bad association. You reminded me that there is a lot of good wisdom in the Bible, and that I ought to not let fake Christians shape my view of it.

  I think we need more of your sort really. Trying to be nice is a lot less valuable in the present world than engaging with people who are actively trying to harm others. Maybe someday I’ll figure out how you remain whole after those arguments. Every way I know to fight people like that in the offline world involves being more effective at being terrible than they are. It does work, but as I’ve gotten older I feel like there really ought to be a better way to do things and a better justification than that moment’s legitimately good goal justifying any means. Apparently some people, including a Jew from a very long time ago, believed you could win hearts through gentleness. I wish I could understand that well enough to apply it in a practical way.

  All of that said, given your highly diverse ethnic background your holiday celebrations must be exciting indeed, even if you’re the only person in attendance.

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  caesar963
  June 5th, 2023
  

  Varied cuisine at the least, for the last of my species. Not just potatoes, as the English guy tastefully charged.
  I suspect that my continual efforts are (& I’ve been told this here in the Caesarean villa) - a complete waste of time. However, there’s always that thing of challenging falsehood - that seems to be possibly worthwhile. But that’s a very narrow possibility. You & several of the others do this very well. Because someone else might be persuaded. Not the demented, hateful ideologues, I don’t think they’re listening to anybody, save those exactly like themselves. Occasionally people pipe up & say they agree, or say thanks for a bk recommendation.

  On the issue of abrading away at the poor old psyche, I suppose best not to take internet loons too seriously. Like all the characters who are useful id!ots for Putin’s genocide, or for all the other toxic regimes & ideologies - these people always existed, of course, long before the net. I think it has a lot to do with isolation, emptiness of purpose, disenfranchisement. It’s scary to think of the use to which such angry, hateful characters would be put by the kinds of extreme l/r ideologies that they become willing dupes for - history gives the examples, but they have no literacy for such things.

  As for religion, be assured that I’d be a terrible example of a Christian, by any metaphysical metric! Whatever the wrongs things happen to be, that’s where I’ll be found. I’ve known some incredible people, though - which is why I toned down my own hostility towards religion. As a history fanatic, it’s also profoundly humbling to read & learn about people such as Maximilian Kolbe and Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
  St. Irenaeus, the 2nd-century theologian, gives the essence of Christianity as “the glory of God is a human being fully alive.”

  On America, what happens seems to be that the extremes get noticed. The loudest, the most angry & vociferous. On all sides. It’s the same everywhere; when the media go to the Islamic world, to present “the authentic voice of the Middle East/Islam/the Arab Street, etc.” - they tend to put a microphone in front of any nut from Hamas, Hezbollah or Islamic State. That old media principle of “If it bleeds, it leads.” They still reckon people will tune in for mindless conflict. Are they right? I suppose.

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour
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  mrpride
  June 6th, 2023
  

  

  really good finds you got there. But wtf is this thread??? :)

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour
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  erouting
  June 8th, 2023
  

  I apologize that my religious conclusions were incorrect. All those labels and here’s me giving you another wrong one. I was thinking you were part of that faith because my recollection was of you arguing in support of it on several occasions in a way that I associate with how Christians defend their faith. But I’m an atheist and I defend Christianity so that was narrow minded of me. I apologize. Another thing I clearly need to work on.

  Good Christians, and good people in general, are normally in the worst places.

  From the Jewish standpoint I was always partial to the idea that God is the goodness we create on earth. St. Irenaeus’s quote compliments that idea nicely. Thank you for sharing words I’ll keep.

  Another Jewish fellow said he spoke because he lacked the power to remain silent. Maybe you do too. If nothing else it’ll let you be amusingly serious about the whole thing.

  Thanks for helping me and others smile. I’ll try to join in your periodic efforts and see if I can keep grinning, as a challenge in personal growth.

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour
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  caesar963
  June 8th, 2023
  

  Thanks again for your characteristically kind reply. And it’s me who has to apologise - for my phrasing, this time. If asked to categorise it, I would be a definite Christian; and whereas I respect the different groups, I’m not absolutely committed to any. So, I would be a terrible example of a Christian per se (I suppose). I’d be a “cultural Catholic,” as they say, and I’m profoundly interested in the intellectual tradition (the history of ideas generally). Consequently, I know how much of a sinner I am.

  I love the pointy-headed arguments. The contemporary philosopher, Edward Feser, is particularly fine at expounding some of the central areas. His “Five Proofs of the Existence of God” is wonderfully nourishing, on the intellectual level.
  (The 5: Aristotelian, Neo-Platonic, Augustinian, Thomistic, & Rationalist (Leibniz, that one).)

  And even more apologies to mr p!

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour
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  caesar963
  June 8th, 2023
  

  I think the really energising, heady moment is where you realise - I’ve never thought that way before. That’s a paradigm approach which is entirely new to me. It makes you aware of how dependent you are on others in order to grow & make progress. Being introduced to such ideas reminds us that these things come from without. We need each other so much. (I’m rambling.)

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  Mastram
  October 14th, 2023
  

  “Also sure. Its a bit like arguing that cocaine can help you push past your limits. It absolutely can. Until it suddenly creates new limits you can’t push past ever again.”

  You don’t get addicted to cocain, and yah Dale Carnegie’ book helped but I am pointing out that cocain añd stress are two very different things, and stress does help pushing an individual, where motivation fails.

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour
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  franTV
  March 24th, 2024
  

  This download didn’t work. Anyone know where else I can find it?

  Under Pressure: Confronting the Epidemic of Stress and Anxiety in Girls - Lisa Damour

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